Lissa and Sandi and Two Earls: VIKINGS, Episode 6

a2alissapicWelcome back!  Lissa Bryan, author of The End of All Things, and I are back with another discussion of The History Channel’s fantastic series: VIKINGS.

We’re still enthusiastically fangirling and were so happy to hear they got picked up for another season!

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Episode VI: Burial of the Dead

Lissa: Every episode, I find myself saying, “So much to talk about!” The hallmark of a good show.

Sandi: Indeed! Last week, we outdid ourselves. 😉 This episode totally had me doing the “eyes bugging out and leaning forward in my seat” thing. I live tweeted during the whole thing and even my son came up to see the battle.

vikings_gallery6 haraldsonLissa: I’m glad my fears were unfounded that the earl or his men would hurt Floki to try to force him to reveal Ragnar’s whereabouts. The acceptance of the challenge and the battle seemed to come so fast! I kept wanting to shout, “Hold on, I haven’t prepared myself for this yet!” When Ragnar’s sword broke, my reaction was the same as Lagertha’s. I closed my eyes for a moment. But Haraldson had at least enough honor to not press his advantage unfairly when Ragnar threw the broken sword and his shield aside.

Sandi: The earl’s pre-fight commentary was VERY interesting to me. He seemed, there at the final night of his life, to pay Ragnar some private respect. But not so anyone beyond Siggy could see it. This was a surprise to me and I wondered (briefly) if it was a foreshadowing of Haraldson’s victory.

Lissa: It was so sad to see his insecurities out in the open, his fear that if he showed Ragnar respect or admitted he might have been wrong, his men would abandon him for Ragnar instead. He never did truly understand leadership, it seems.

Sandi: My thoughts exactly.

The use of the axes was very well done. It was the most common weapon in hand to hand combat and every one of the warriors had at least one when they fought. They wielded them well, the pair of them.

Lissa: My favorite axe fighting scene remains the one where Ragnar runs home to the village after the attack. He’s choppin’ as he goes, with incredible skill and this sort of “I ain’t got time for you, so die quickly, please” impatience.

Sandi: We didn’t even mention the raid last time. How careless of us. But yeah, I am with you.

Lissa: Siggy really does seem to have loved Haraldson after all. Giving him those two precious locks of hair, her last tangible connection to her sons, when he lost his faith, and then her terrible cry when the jarl’s lifeblood began to soak into the soil. I felt compassion for her for the first time.

vikings_gallery6 siggysadSandi: Now, I saw that differently. What I was thinking Ragnar might have done was to cut off the earl’s right hand, to disable him from fighting in Valhalla. This kind of dismemberment would have been mean, but final. I thought Siggy was responding to that possibility. As it was, Ragnar but sped the earl on his way.

Lissa: I didn’t think of that, probably because it seems such an un-Ragnar thing to do. In the end, he did respect Haraldson, even if it did come down to a battle to the death between them.

As suspected, it seems there was at least a plan by Haraldson’s right-hand-man to slay Ragnar if the earl fell in battle. It was refreshing to see no one tried to obey his command to kill him, and I smirked a little when his own end came swiftly. And Siggy, grabbing a dagger to murder her daughter’s new husband! I was surprised there were no repercussions from this actions. Thiry’s husband was an earl himself (where were his men?) and she just killed him in cold blood in front of everyone.

Sandi: I had just tweeted that I wished someone would take out Short Second when Rollo axed him. I totally fist-pumped. I was surprised at Siggy’s taking out of the Swede, though. I know she hated that he was her daughter’s husband, but killing an ally in front of witnesses was foolish. I wonder if there will be repercussions.

vikings_gallery6 brothersLissa: And so Ragnar took the fur-covered throne, accepting the pledges of his people. When Rollo came forward, his poor face still showing the signs sof his torture, I thought he was sincere and I was happy. The two of them working together would make a mighty leadership team, but then when he asked Ragnar how the two of them would ever be equal again during the raids, my heart sank.

Sandi: I caught the “as long as” conditional to his oath and laughed, but inside, I wondered. Because Rollo made this oath in front of all the men…how much will that matter.

Lissa: Haraldson’s funeral was a jolly affair, the first time we’ve seen the “stereotypical” Vikings, tearing into meat with their bare hands, sloppily toasting one another with their drinking horns, and literally rolling around in the mud.

Sandi: And Athelstan, meandering through looking dazed or drunk or both. But his new attire was nice.

Lissa: Bjorn holds his liquor better! I feel a little sorry for Athelstan right now. His faith is still a major part of his life, but he’s beginning to love these people, even if their customs shock him on occasion.

Ragnar shocked me with his cruel teasing when Siggy asked to light the pyre, bringing the torch to her and then handing it off to another. It seemed pointlessdly mean and out of character for him. If he didn’t want to give her the honor, it seems the Ragnar we know would have taken her aside and gently explained his reasons why instead of slighting her in front of the entire village. And why? Siggy and he had no personal quarrel.

I chalked it up to his being ill from his wounds. The producers did a wonderful job with that. In many series, the hero would bounce back right after the pivotal battle, perhaps with a slight limp or something, but Ragnar was worse-off after his fight with Haraldson. His face was sheened with fever-sweat and his eyes looked bleary all through the funeral festivities.

Sandi: I concur – he looked quite horrible and weak. And even later in the winter, when both pig and pregnant lady were “fattening” (ha! to that!) he was still obviously recovering.

Lissa: The slave girl who elected to follow Haraldson to the afterworld really touched me for some reason. Perhaps it was a testament to the skill of the actress. I could feel her fear and sorrow to leave life, and the raw courage it took to follow through on her offer without wavering. I understood Bjorn’s outrage when Athelstan wanted to leave instead of watching to honor her bravery and sacrifice.

Sandi: I had to sit with Athelstan on this one. I wouldn’t have wanted to see it happen. Bjørn, though, is very Old School and keen on tradition. I wonder if he is more like his mother or father in this regard?

Lissa: And then, ah… my heart was broken when Rollo spoke of himself being the earl. I so hope he was just saying that so Siggy would be interested in marrying him, but I fear not.

And speaking of fear, the snake pit! God, what an awful way to go.

Sandi: First thing out of my mouth was the Indiana Jones quote. “Snakes. Why’d it have to be snakes?”

Why didn’t he go for Thyri??? I was baffled.

Lissa: As alliances go, Thyri would have been the better choice, but I think Rollo has a bit of a thing for Siggy. She’s also ruthless enough to help him in his plans, whatever they may be.

vikings_gallery6 rolloSandi: I have theories as to how Rollo might make himself earl and marry Siggy without killing off his brother. Exactly. Theories… At this point, I’ll keep them quiet, though. I see Rollo as respecting Ragnar, but wishing to be his equal, not his supplanter. He wants his brother – and all the family, I think – out of the way.

Lissa: Spoilers…..It appears they are sticking to the saga, as horrifying as that may be. Let’s hope they don’t include Thora and Asluag!

Sandi: Well..there is another season coming up, so let us be hopeful! 🙂

6 comments

  1. melissafoxwords · April 8, 2013

    I’m so loving this show. It’s the first one in a really long time both hubs and I look forward to sitting down and watching together!

    I had the same question about Siggy killing her daughter’s husband – why none of his people were there and said anything, nor did anyone else. I mean, I know a lot was going on just then, but still. I wonder if that will be addressed later, something Ragnar might use against her? It was a great scene, though, I was all “nice move!” When Rollo killed the underling guy, and then “oooh, another nice move!” when Siggy killed the Swede. Didn’t exactly get why he was so openly mean to her about lighting the funeral pyre, especially when Rollo commented later about Ragnar not holding grudges, but he’s shown that kind of dichotomy in his personality and actions before. Certainly keeps it interesting, and I love how wicked he can be.

    PS – like the new site layout!

    • Sandi · April 8, 2013

      I’m so glad you’re enjoying it, too! 🙂

      Siggy wasn’t acting rationally. If she had just started beating on a random guy, I would’ve been thinking “grief psychosis” and let it go, but she was very deliberate. I do hope there is something that comes from that to give us a reason for it. lol

      Rollo and the axe? Win.

      I dunno about Ragnar and Siggy…but I’m thinking he had his reasons. He’s a crafty fellow and even if his reasons don’t make sense to ME, I’m sure they do to him.

      And thanks! My next book is “Contemporary” so I changed my theme for a few months. 🙂 Besides…I love redecorating. 🙂

      Thanks for reading!

  2. Sarah Aisling · April 8, 2013

    Fascinating to read your commentary as always! It was good to see Haraldson respected Ragnar. At least Haraldson was honorable about the fight, instead of taking the coward’s way out. I also fist-pumped when Haraldson’s guy got the axe. Never did like him much, LOL.

    You know there’s going to be trouble with Rollo, but I agree with you there might be something afoot other than him trying to oust Ragnar. Hmmm…

    I wonder, too, if there won’t be some repercussions for Siggy for killing her daughter’s husband.

    Hubby and I just love watching this together! Looking forward to next week.

    • Sandi · April 8, 2013

      Hi, Sarah! Glad you’re enjoying the back-and-forth. 🙂 We have fun!

      Haraldson really stepped up before and during the fight. I didn’t LIKE him, but I did find a respect for him that had been lacking before.

      I think it’s great that you and your hubby get to watch this together. The Spousal Unit, alas, has to be in la-la land by nine since he’s up before five in the morning. So I watch it with headphones in another room. lol

      Thanks for reading!

  3. WyndyDee · April 9, 2013

    Reblogged this on Wyndy Dee and commented:
    Only two more right? Then it’s Viking and The Bible marathons!

    • Sandi · April 9, 2013

      Hi, WyndyDee!

      I checked on IMDB and they mentioned that the characters were there for nine episodes? So I’m not sure if there are two or three more to come. 🙂

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